How to Get Rid of Bad Links: Part Two

Step Two: Use Whois to Find the Owner

Link Removal can be Enjoyable like a Video Game

What if you try to remove a bad link using a comment form or email found on the site, but you receive no response? Or on the site there is no comment form or email or any way way of contacting the owner?  You need to move to Step Two.  Step Two is to try to find some alternate way of communicating with the owner of the site.

Removing Bad Links
Removing bad links is hard work. You have to be persistent.  It is not for the lazy or the feint of heart.  If you give up or get discouraged easily then you should not bother.  Start over with a new domain right now.

You can make link removal more enjoyable if you have the right attitude and like a good challenge.  Pretend it is a video game and the links are targets ( they are.)  There is a certain satisfaction in removing each link and the end goal of recovering your ranking is the sheer pleasure of winning.

Site with Bad Link
Here is a site with an article linking to my client. My client hired someone (not me) to do SEO for him in 2009, not knowing that low-ranking article sites might not be a good idea, or maybe the article site was not low-ranking at the time. Besides, it was before article spamming was even known to be harmful.  Certainly my client was not at fault, but last spring, several years later, his site went down in ranking.  The articles were still there on now low-ranking, spammy sites.  His site got hit with the second Penguin.



For over six months I have been removing his bad links. I have tried in vain to communicate with the owner of this article website via the comment form.

Comment Form Not Working
What you can't see above are my comments, asking the owners to remove the link and article, so I'll let you see them below. They make me laugh since I sound so pleading and pathetic.  Speaking of which, you can't let ego get in the way if you are doing link removal. Pathetic begging becomes routine. Think of that before you sign up for bad links.  Link removal ain't pretty.

I use the "we" in the comments, although neither my client or myself signed up for this article.  It was a previous SEO company who in 2009 thought that this was a good practice. I'm not judging them too much because it was standard then.  (Much like guest posting was thought a good practice until recently.)

The owner is either not seeing these comments or ignoring them.  It is obviously time for Step Two.

Step Two: Use a Whois Site

You need to fine a good Whois website.  I use whois.net.  You'll need to type in the domain of the site with the unwanted link.  This is what I find:

Still No Contact

If I want complete details, and the contact information, I have to go to the Godaddy Whois.  When I get to Goddaddy I find I have to enter in the verification code into the captcha to see the details. This is the result:

I find the site is listed as private.  The contact information is still not available. This is disappointing news but perhaps if I write to the Admin Email at bestarticlesdaily.com@domainsbyproxy.com of Godaddy, they will forward it to the owner. This is what I decide to do.  I email the admin contact and ask for the link removal.

Perhaps You'll Have Better Luck
Sometimes the contact info is available on Whois and you can write an email or even a letter.  I've even called an owner before when nothing else worked. Just because whois and emailing didn't work this time for me, it doesn't mean you won't find the information you need.

Time will Tell
Only time will tell if the owner will respond to my email.  Let's keep our fingers crossed.  And if not all is not lost.  There is still Step Three.

Update
It is more than a month later and I still no response from the website/article owner.  Definitely time for Part Three.

The other posts in this series are:
How to Find Bad Links
How to Remove Bad Links Part One - Ask for Removal on the Site Itself
How to Remove Bad Links Part Two - Use Whois to Find the Owner
How to Remove Bad Links Part Three - Create the Disavow Tool Text

How to Get Rid of Bad Links: Part One

Best First Step: Ask for Removal on the Site Itself

Now that you've identified your bad links, you can now start the process of getting rid of them.

Here is are some links for a site downloaded from Google Web Master Tools.  I've put them in a spreadsheet and started to analyse them.

Nofollow, No Worry

Notice that the first six links are all nofollow, since I've put an "n" in the "Followed?" column.  You don't have to worry about them, as a general rule, if they are "nofollow"  since they don't pass much link juice. The seventh is a followed and low-ranking link from the domain: http://alestat.com.  It has a PR 0.  This is probably not good for page rank, and looks a good one to get rid of.  Doing so can only help our ranking.

Best Way to Start Link Removal
The best way to start link removal is to go to the site itself to request link removal.  Sometimes there is a contact form to request removal and, on the other end, in the best of cases, a person who after receiving the request, will immediately remove it for you.  This is what happens with reputable site.

Let's Try it Out

Let's go to Alestat and see if that is the case here.  This is what Alestat looks like:

We will love their statistics, we are told. And so it seems, at first glance, we will.  Alestat is one of those sites that will give you statistics about your page rank and Alexa ranking, if you enter your domain name into the text box. It looks professional, clean, and reputable, like a good site.  It does not look spammy at all.  The site probably added our link when someone, out of curiosity, submitted our domain to find out the statistics.  (Warning: If you are following along, do not submit your site.)

Find the Contact

To top it all off there is a "Contact " too.  This is great, it seems, we'll be able to ask for removal.  Clicking the "Contact",  we find a form and on the form under "--select type of query--" there is even, yes, a "Delete link to website."  At this point we're loving this site and how easy they make it to request removal.  Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, we're almost there, we think. I enter "Delete link to website" and I find this:

Time to be Shocked

Now we're shocked, this site is so bad.  It lures people into their really nice, clean and reputable looking website, saying we'll love their statistics.  Unsuspecting, we enter our domain.  After which they give us a low-ranking link we didn't ask for, and then charge us $10 a year to remove it and keep it removed?  I don't think so.  I would not pay this...this is not reputable or honest.  This is a site to stay away from completely. Don't enter your domain to begin with, don't pay if you already have.

What to do Next

What I did was to disavow the link in Google Web Master Tools which I will talk about in a future post.  I put in a comment to tell Google why.  Disavowing will take the bad link's link juice away without paying the $10 or $25 dollars.

The Best First Step

With many sites, you can submit a request for removal in their contact form or, if they list an email address, by emailing them.  This is the best and easiest way to remove a bad link.  Many websites make it easy to request removal and will do it on first request.  Start there.  The harder link removals come next.

If you want help finding or removing bad links, Ducktoes will be glad to give advice or do it for you.

The other posts in this series are:
How to Find Bad Links
How to Remove Bad Links Part One - Ask for Removal on the Site Itself
How to Remove Bad Links Part Two - Use Whois to Find the Owner
How to Remove Bad Links Part Three - Create the Disavow Tool Text

How to Find Bad Links

Have you had a significant drop in traffic and ranking? You probably have bad links pointing to your site.  If so, they could be hurting your ranking under Google's Penguin update.  Here's is how to find them.

Finding the Links
First log into your Google Web Master Tools account. You'll find a list of your sites.  Double-click on the site in question.  The dashboard will open.  Then find and click on the small triangle by "Search Traffic" so a drop down menu appears. Open "Links to Your Site."

You'll see some sample links but they're not specific enough since they only tell you the domain not the actual link.  You need to download the links themselves. Click on "Download more sample links" or "Download latest links".

The Spreadsheet

Google Webmaster Tools will ask you to choose the download format, either csv or Google docs.  The first will open in a spreadsheet like Microsoft Excel, the other in Google Docs spreadsheet.  You may need to download Google drive to access Google docs. I did.

Download and open your list.

You can copy and paste each link into your browser check out each link and find out the page rank.  You need to click on the far left column then drag and highlight the link with your cursor.  Paste that into the address bar of your browser. 

Check Page Rank and Quality 

I use Google Chrome with a PageRank SEO extension. You can also use a Google search toolbar with page rank.  Now you can check the quality of each link.  

1. Go to the site by pasting the link into the address bar and see if the site looks spammy.  If it doesn't look like a quality or even mediocre site, you may not want it as a link.
2. Check what the site's page rank is using your toolbar or page rank extension. If there is a question mark, n/a, or 1 then the site is low ranking.  PR4 and above is best. Be careful, however, sometimes a high-ranking site may have just been delisted and will still show a high rank.  Make sure you do the next check as well.
3. Check to see if the site is delisted.  To do this go to Google and type Site:yourdomainname.com, for example site:duunia.org.  If the site doesn't come up in the search results, it is delisted. You definitely don't want the link if it is. The example I gave for the Duunia directory is. You can also just search for the site.  For this site search for "Duunia directory."  If the site's actual domain doesn't come up in the listings it probably is delisted.
4. If there is a malware warning site, then the link is really bad.

Nofollow or Not

Also you need to check if the link to your site is "nofollow" or not.  If it is "nofollow" then it isn't passing much link juice either negatively or positively.  If the site linking to your site is low-ranking but has nofollowed your link then you don't have to worry about its impact, at least in most cases.

To check, go to the webpage where your link is by copying and pasting the link into the address bar of your Chrome browser. Type Ctrl + U.  That will take you to the page source where you can see the html coding. Now type Ctrl + F and search for your domain in the text box that opens in the top right corner

Type Ctrl + F and then type the name of your domain into the text box.

You`ll see the link within the html coding that links to your site. If you see rel = nofollow near your link or url.

This link is nofollow.

Record your Results

Inside your spreadsheet you'll want to keep notes so you don't have to check the sites of your links over and over especially if you have hundreds which many older sites do, you won't be able to remember.

On mine I've added columns for page rank and if the link is "followed" or "nofollowed".  I put in the word "gone" if the site is no longer online. I would also add in red if the site were delisted or had malware in red.  None of these sites do.

I`ve added PR and whether is link is nofollow to my spreadsheet.

Next you'll need to get rid of the bad links.  Click here to find out how to start.

The other posts in this series are:
How to Find Bad Links
How to Remove Bad Links Part One - Ask for Removal on the Site Itself
How to Remove Bad Links Part Two - Use Whois to Find the Owner
How to Remove Bad Links Part Three - Create the Disavow Tool Text

If you need help identifying bad links, Ducktoes can help.  We are an SEO and Web Design Firm in Calgary.